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	Sparky Lifetime Site Supporter Head Curmudgeon	Joined: February/10/2004 United States Posts: 7104 IP Logged
Posted: February/28/2021 at 11:27am		Quote

C-87 Liberator Express

A passenger version of the B-24
Sparky

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	kuhn Site Supporter	Joined: February/08/2009 Bulgaria Posts: 2903 IP Logged
Posted: February/28/2021 at 11:37am		Quote

Nope.

Not that

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	kuhn Site Supporter	Joined: February/08/2009 Bulgaria Posts: 2903 IP Logged
Posted: March/01/2021 at 2:00am		Quote

Quote: kuhn

Sparky.

Nope. Not correct.

1. Made of and assembled using a radical material and process for the time.

2. Designed to a US Navy requirement and accepted in 1942.

3. High wing cantilevered monoplane.

4. Transport command.

5. Had everything "but the kitchen sink".

Taken too long.

Sparky seems to be the only one interested. Sooo ...

ANSWER IS: The Budd Conestoga.

Navy designation RB-1

Army Air Forces designation C-93.

Manufactured completely of stainless steel and assembled using the

"shot welded" method. I assume that's like the current "Spot welding".

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	Sparky Lifetime Site Supporter Head Curmudgeon	Joined: February/10/2004 United States Posts: 7104 IP Logged
Posted: March/01/2021 at 7:49am		Quote

I Looked at the Budd but I didn't think it matched the clues well enough. It was part of the beginning of the airline I retired from in 2017. Flying Tigers bought the Conestoga as their first airplane and they apparently ran out of parts/wore them out and crashed a few before they moved onto other planes. Then an upstart freight company bought Flying Tigers as they were about to go under and rolled them into Federal Express. I don't think more than a handful of Flying Tiger Airlines pilots are left on the payroll. You could tell if a pilot was from FT because they all had a unique employee number. Integrating the pilot seniority list was troublesome and I avoided that discussion with the guys that suffered through the process. I showed up in 1995 after all that happened but the scares were still evident.

MD-11

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	kuhn Site Supporter	Joined: February/08/2009 Bulgaria Posts: 2903 IP Logged
Posted: March/01/2021 at 1:29pm		Quote

Sparky,

Really interesting information.

Thanks.

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	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1507 IP Logged
Posted: March/01/2021 at 3:48pm		Quote

Aircraft Name.

A.N.F. Mureaux 117

A-10 Thunderbolt II

AEG J.1

Aeromarine 39.

Aichi B7A Ryusei

Aichi D1A

Aichi E13Av (Jake)

Aichi M6A Seiran

Airco DH2

AirSpeed AS.59 Fleet Shadower

Albatros C.XV

Amiot 143M

Ansaldo SVA

Antonov AN14 "Clod"

Arado Ar 196

Arado Ar 232

Arado Ar 95 A/W

Archive B7A

Armstrong Whitworth " Siskin"

Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle

Armstrong Whitworth F.K.8

Avia B-534

Avro Bison.

B-17 D "Ole Betsy" / "Swoose"

BAT F.K.23 Bantam

Beaufighter

Beech 18

Bell P59A Airacomet

Bell P-63. Avro 504k.

Blackburn B.26 Botha

Blackburn Beverly

Blackburn Kangaroo

Blériot XI

Blohm & Voss BV-141

Boeing C97 Stratofreighter

Bolton Paul Defiant

Breda Ba 65

Breese Penguin or the Bleriot Penguin.

Bréguet 19

Bréguet Type IV

Brewster Buffalo.

Budd Conestoga RB-1 / C93

CAC CA-25

Caproni Ca.4

Caproni Ca1/Ca3

Convair F106 Delta Dart

Curtiss A-12 Shrike.

Curtiss Model F

Curtiss SBC-3 Helldiver

Curtiss SO3C Seamew

Curtiss SOC Seagull

Curtiss Wright XP-55 Ascender

De Havilland Fox Moth

DeHavilland Sea Vixen

Deperdussin 1912 monocouque

Dewoitine D.520

DH Hornet

Douglas A-1/AD-X Skyraider

Douglas A-26

Douglas B-66C "Destroyer"

Douglas BTD - 1 Destroyer

Douglas T2D-1

Douglas TBD Devastator

Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster

Douglas Y1B-7

Durand AR.I

E2C Hawkeye

Fairey IIIC

Farman F.222

Farman GoliathF60

Fiat CR32

Fiat g55

Fokker CV

Fokker Dr..I

Grumman A-6 Intruder

Handley Page Hinaidi

Handley Page HP.52 Hampden

Hawker Demon

Hawker Sidney Nimrod

He 177 Greif (griffin)

Heinkel He 100

Heinkel He 177

Heinkel He 59

Helio - Courier / Super Courier

Henschel Hs 123

IAI Arava

Ikarus IK-2

IMAM RO 37

Junkers JU-290

Junkers JU-86

Kawanishi H8K

Kawanishi N1K1

Koolhoven F.K.58

Laister-Kauffman CG-10a

Lear Jet C21A

Letord 5

Levy Besson 450 hp

Lioré-et-Olivier LeO 45

Lloyd C.V Series 46

Lockheed P-2 Neptune

Loening M-8

Lohner B.II

Lohner Type T / Macchi LI

Macchi M.5

Martin B-10B

Martin MB-1

Miles Gemini

Mitsubishi Ki-2

Mitsubishi T2

Morale Saulnier L

Morane-Saulnier M.S.406

Myasischev M4

Nakajima J1N1-S

New Standard D-25. Avro Shackleton

North American FJ-1 Fury

Northrop N31B Nomad

Northrop YA-9

Otto Doppeldecker

P1 Hawk

P-38 Lightning

P-80 Shooting Star

Pazmany PL-1.

Pfalz D.VIII

Polikarpov I-16

Polikarpov Po-2

PZL.23 Kara

RAF B.E.2e

RAF R.E.8

Reggiane RE-2005'

Renard R31

Republic F-105 Thunderchief

Rohrbach Ro II

Roland D.VIa

Rumpler Taube

RWD 9

Ryan FR Fireball

S-3 Viking

SAAB 21.

Saab B17.

Sablatnig N.I

Savoia-Marchetti SM-81

Shcherbakov Shche 2

Short SC.7

Short Seamew

Short Stirling

Sikorsky H-34

Sikorsky Ilya Muromets S-22 thru S-27

Sikorsky S-10

Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter

Sopwith Bat Boat

SPAD 7 C.I

Sturmovik

Super marine Scimitar

Supermarine Nighthawk

Svenska Aero Jaktfalken

Timm S-160

U-2

Vickers Wellesley

Vickers Wellington

Vought VE7 "Bluebird"

Welch OW-5M

Westland Wyvern

Wright Military Flyer 1909

Yakolev Yak-18 Max

Yakovlev Yak-7

Yokosuka D4Y Suisei (Judy)

Zeppelin D.I

Zepplin (L-59)

	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1507 IP Logged
Posted: March/02/2021 at 1:47pm		Quote

doesnt seem to be any lurkers/takers so far!

lets see how long this one will take.

1 - equal span 3 bay biplane

2 - design work began 1914

3 - tractor configuration

4 - V-8 powered

5 - crew of 2

6 - 4 blade propeller

	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1507 IP Logged
Posted: March/02/2021 at 7:14pm		Quote

A few more clues maybe will elicit some guesses.

1 - equal span 3 bay biplane

2 - design work began 1914

3 - tractor configuration

4 - V-8 powered

5 - crew of 2

6 - 4 blade propeller

7 - lower wing was of equal chord,upper wing increased in chord from the center section to the wingtip

8 - first flew 1915

9 - fitted with a radio transmitter & receiver powered by a wind driven generator

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